Gray's Matter
Justice Gray - North America's Favorite Metrosexual Software Consultant
   by Justice~! Personal | Technical  
Guy Kawasaki's entry on How to Get Into Silicon Valley gave me a bit of pause today.  Guy is a brilliant venture capitalist/engaging speaker/fantastic writer.  Speaking from a firmly heterosexual standpoint, he's also a fairly good-looking dude - which of course on this blog means instant credibility.  He's pretty much the Hawaiian Justice Gray*!

So, when Guy says the following, I get a little scared:

"Here’s the 1/2/3 Rule of Resumes:
  • 1 page long. When some job candidates read this, they will think, “Guy is referring to the hoi polloi and unwashed masses, not me. I have ten years of experience at four different companies covering five different positions. My resume needs to be two—maybe even three-pages—to adequately explain the totality of my wonderfulness. And the more I mention, the more the company might see things they like.”

    As a rule of thumb, if you can’t pitch your company in ten slides or pitch yourself in one page, your idea is stupid and you suck, respectively."

Not quite the size of my resume
Not *quite* the size of my current resume

You see, my resume as it stands is currently 3 pages long.  Let me tell you, I was *squeezing* stuff in order to get it to fit that length!  I'm not including obvious bullet points like "poet laureate", and "Your Mother said she'd hire me, if you know what I mean" (always good for a guaranteed callback).  My resume contains just the normal everyday stuff about my work history, accomplishments and what benefits I've been able to bring to the companies I've consulted for aside from my ridiculous good looks, charm, and rare ability to carry off the pink dress shirt look

Now, I am certain that in his entry Guy *is* only referring to the unwashed masses and simply forgot to write the part about "Justice Gray is a notable exclusion due to hotness that is off the hook, y'all" (as you can tell, I've definitely got Guy's writing voice down pretty well). And even if he wasn't, so what if Guy thinks that I suck?  My mother still thinks I am pretty rad - another fact I have left off every resume except for the one that got me my first tech job.  

However, what is my life without the tacit approval of Guy Kawasaki to guide it?  It is with that in mind that I am going to attempt to knock my resume down to *1 page only*.  After all, if "less is sometimes more" works in software design, it should work for resumes as well...at least I hope?  

I'm curious:
1) What do you guys think is an appropriate length for a technical resume? 
2) Is it a different standard in different regions? 
3) If you are responsible for hiring, is there a resume length that you will discard as "too short" or "too long"? 
4) For that matter, how long is your own resume? 
5) After reading Guy's entry, are you thinking of shortening it?

Update: As if this were not more difficult, the ever-glamorous Gretchen Ledgard of JobSyntax has posted that she feels Guy Kawasaki is wrong!!  But Gretchen is *also* full of great and wonderful advice!!  Who to choose when either choice leaves someone's heart broken? 

"Torn between two lovers...feeling like a fool..."


*with some minor additional accolades, of course

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Personally, I think that unless it is a C.V. (curriculum vitae), it should be 2 pages - no more, no less.  

1 page = "I'm inexperienced"
2 pages = "I'm succinct"
3 pages+ = "I'm a braggart/egomaniac"

Doesn't that explain everything? ;)

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#2 Alex Bath  on 8/15/2006 5:04:07 AM

Alex Bath

My "one-page punch" resume is what got me here in the first place, but that was right out of school...

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Guy Kawasaki

Send me your 3 page resume, and I'll reduce it to 1 page and make it better.

Guy

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vien

Hi Justice,

I read your blog entries when it has a subject title that I can understand. ;)

Your writing style has mastered the art of sarcasm, or is it only b/c i Know you, or am I mistakenly laughing at you instead of with you. ;)

I've had so many jobs, but I only list 3-4 most current ones, but as our career life lengthens, it would stand to say that you don't need 3-4 pages anymore.

What about having a stand out cover letter with a 2 page resume?  That's usually what I try to do.

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MrsL: You are lucky you are married to me or else*!

Alex:  Never under-estimate the power of the one-inch/page punch!!

Guy:  How can I possibly refuse that offer?

Vien:  re: my writing style, it's probably a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.  ;)

* or else I would curl into the fetal position and cry

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I agree with mrsloquacious. Anything over 2 pages I have usually discarded unless I am desperate. 3 pages usually means that they have either put totally irrelevant things into the resume to enlarge it or else have had way too many jobs and that sends out a warning signal to look at the duration of those jobs.

If I get a one page resume I really feel that the person did not even try to get the job as they are not selling themselves to me. So unless it is a junior position the one pagers usually sift to the bottom.

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Mack D. Male

I would say two pages tops as well.

It does vary though. Guy may only like one page, others might like more. Depends on the HR person to an extent I think.

Unless the job is project heavy, and you have 25 years of experience or something and you want to detail some of the projects, but you'd probably know from the job posting whether that was appropriate or not.

Anyway, take Guy's offer Smile

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gretchen

How cool that I'm pitted against Guy. Smile  One of my heroes, too. It's ok if you break my heart, Justice.  I'll forgive you.

My 2cents is that if you can pull off a one page resume, go for it.  Most people with more than 5 or 6 years of solid experience can't though.  Recruiters (yes, that's the sad truth that you're trying to get past their filters more often than you trying to get past Guy's filterSmile usually need a bit more info.  One page is fine if you can do it.  2 or 3 pages are also acceptable.  No one is going to throw your resume to the curb for inserting a page break. Smile But they may throw it to the curb if you don't provide enough info.  Keep the good stuff in the first 2/3s of first page.  If they stop reading after that, fine.

And, hey, if Guy can really slim down a resume to one page and make it better, he's welcome to come work for JobSyntax anytime he wants. Wink  He'll like it here … we followed his philosophy when setting it up. Smile

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Ontario Emperor

Last time I edited my resume, I believe it was around two pages.

Haven't read Kawasaki in years. I'll follow up on the link. Does he provide an example of his own resume?

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