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Windows Vista - nothing new to see here (for the average user)
What's that we smell? Why, it's the scent of revolution!
We've talked quite a bit about love affairs in the last little while, including
EDMUG's with Jean Paul Boodhoo
,
Steve Rockarts' with communism
,
mine with my wife
, or
Hasbro with marketing incompetency
. But for the end of Valentine's week, I wanted to briefly touch on the misplaced affection that some software developers seem to have with
Windows Vista
.
This all began with
some other
posts by
Robert May
where he made the statement that Vista was hardly revolutionary to the average user. He brought up what I thought were *excellent* points, including:
"The users don’t give a rat’s rear end about what they can’t see. They just want it to work."
"You should have a more user centric view of the world. In general, software isn’t for the developers, it’s for the users. Calling the users stupid serves little purpose other than demonstrating your lack of concern for your customer."
As you can imagine, many developers lined up for an impassioned defense of their lover, best friend, and dominatrix, Windows Vista.
Jason Olson
commented:
"Seriously, you don't think there are revolutionary features in Windows Vista? How about Transactional NTFS? First fully ACID transactionally-aware OS in a major operating system. Then you add in the stability that this can bring when developers leverage it (and even the fact that our internal teams like Windows Update are using it), that's a big one. How about IIS7, more specifically Windows Activation Service and what that provides for WCF Services? I digress though as I'm starting to delve more into server features."
I then replied,
"Not that I want to get into a huge debate about it, but how much of what you have talked about is relevant from an end-user perspective (one who does no programming or server maintenance)? That's where I think Vista falls down. "
The heroic
Rick Mogstad
then leapt to Vista's defense:
"Unless an end-user decides not to use any software except for the OS, it has everything to do with the end-user."
Rick seems to be under the impression that people like my mother phone me excitedly to tell me about how transactional NTFS and IIS7 are going to
*change the way* they surf the net for Food Network recipes *forever*
. Those sorts of people are much like the user-centric improvements in Windows Vista;
they exist in fairy tales and imaginary thoughts
.
Tell me this doesn't look revolutionary!
I continued to read Rick's other comments and then his own follow-up post. If there's one thing that I was convinced about after reading his
thoughts
, it's that
Rick must be a terrible amount of fun at parties
. If there is a second thing I am convinced of, it would be that Rick is *very* excited and passionate about all the wonderful under-the-hood features that Vista has. Myself, I'd be thinking that the average user probably doesn't care about these things. Fortunately, Rick counters that because
he doesn't actually care about the average user
. In response to Robert's
"The users don’t give a rat’s rear end about what they can’t see. They just want it to work."
Rick declares (actual quote)
"That's because they are stupid. Are you stupid too?"
I sincerely hope Rick doesn't have to try the "if you don't care about what's underneath, you're retarded" argument when he's out on dates.
Rick does point out in his post that he is also excited about the fact Vista guards against retarded users screwing things up. Sure, I agree that having more security is a good thing;
I just don't think it should be the prime selling point of your "revolutionary" operating system
. I can see it now:
"Windows Vista - now protecting you from your own stupidity"
. This message makes about as much sense as the concept of
robots that transform into rocks
, and would probably sell just as well if it were not coming pre-installed on new computers.
Vista is not terrible by any stretch of the imagination, and I like using it - it just comes across as ho-hum. Sure, there are some cool things in there. That 3D enhanced Solitare?
*Amazing*
. And let's not forget Inkball, the World of Warcraft killer! In fact, I will bet good money that the most users know more about those two games above than either transactional NTFS *or* IIS7.
For a non-technical home user, I don't know of a compelling reason to upgrade to Vista unless you really like 3D window flipping. Heck, Microsoft's own marketing department doesn't seem to know either, if you read
Jay Kimble's dissection
. Okay, now 30 year old men can view animated thumbnails of their Dora the Explorer movie collections. But doesn't Microsoft want to sell their OS to more than just
D'Arcy Lussier
?
Monday, February 19, 2007
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2/20/2007 8:10:11 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I think that the biggest thing that end users will experience (though still arguably "under the hood") is the backup and restore functionality that is said to be hardware independant.
Now they can click all the links they want, install whatever questionable software they want, and their grandson (to continue the allegory of your grandmother's OS experience) will be able to maintain a backup that has the latest patches and such installed and get them back up and clicking away in a much shorter time.
But, wait, maybe the time it took to rebuild a machine from the OS up was a deterrant to such behavior... hmm.. must rethink.
JH
2/20/2007 10:34:01 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I better not get Vista... if this inkball is as good as you say, I have no idea how I'd find any time for Steve between it and WoW!
Cat
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2/20/2007 10:55:18 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Jason - this is a good feature to be sure, although from my impressions this isn't too different from Ghost or whatnot; only difference is it's built into the software. Is it either revolutionary or enough to push someone to upgrade though?
Cat: I figured that was the reason Steve never mentioned Inkball to you after we went to the initial Vista conference; no need to destroy his relationship! ;)
Justice
2/20/2007 8:36:22 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
The advantage of the restore versus Ghost is that Ghost is hardware dependant so each backup you have made by Ghost can only ever be restored on a machine with that same hardware scheme (which was one reason a lot of corporations were buying batches of the same machine all at a time... same hardware makes life easier for IT guys). With this backup/restore functionality, it's hardware independant, so you can apply all the updates and such and all you have to do after restoring is set up any specialized device drivers/install apps. That way, I can have a clean my backup on my machine that I can use to apply to anyone who brings their machine to me. Additionally, unlike ghost (which is just a snapshot), these backups can be loaded up (in a VM?) and you can continually keep them updated rather than having to make a new one each time.
I don't think that that feature is anything new for the end user,but pretty much anything in the OS featureset hasn't been truly "new" in a long time. It's definitely the feature I am looking forward to being able to help my Dad with when he finally decides to upgrade (and donate his machine, that is newer than any I have in my house, to me).
JH
2/22/2007 10:53:44 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
First off, way to not get into a huge debate about it.... ;)
The average user may not think they care about the under-the-hood features, but they care about the effects of them, much the same way that I don't care why my car gets better gas mileage than an SUV, only that it does.
If the under-the-hood features were missing, people would complain about them, even indirectly. How many people complain about how insecure Windows is? Do they care why it's insecure? No, but they do care that it is.
It isn't that I don't care about the average user, but I maintain that they are stupid (In the context of properly using their computer/software). The funny thing is that they actually know they're stupid, and want you to protect them from themselves. If you don't, they will complain and ask why it is that you let them do such stupid things and screw things up....("You should have warned me....!"). How many "average" users do you know who would click on the EXE that "you" send them with the subject line "Hey, check this out!"? I would guess more than a few....
I know that these things won't sell an OS to an average user, but the average user looks to their friend/family member/local tech store for advice, and those are the people who need to know what the big deal is about Vista. They are the ones that need to explain to the users that even beyond the UI, Vista really does have a lot of good things for them, even if they wont ever see them.
So, if you are disappointed, I will ask you too. What did you expect? What features are you missing, that you expected to be there (from an average user point of view)? What features in XP (from an average user point of view), warrant the upgrade from Win98/2000? What features do you think *should* be there so that users would find value in upgrading to Vista?
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